PLEASE COMPLETE THIS SURVEY AND FORWARD IT TO FRIENDS
TO SAVE OUR MIDDLETOWN BRANCH LIBRARIES!
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HBCYCHM
Your presence is NEEDED at the following meetings to show how important the libraries are to our community. Reserve these times, make a difference, and participate by being there. Your children are welcome to come and learn about our government.
- Monday, February 4, at 8pm : Middletown Township Committee meeting (Town Hall, 1 Kings Highway)
- Tuesday, February 19, at 8pm : Middletown Township Committee meeting
- Wednesday, February 20 at 7pm : Middletown Library Board of Trustees meeting -- The Board will be voting on their 2013 budget. The budget includes the closures of the branches. WE NEED THEM TO VOTE NO! Remember, once the libraries are closed, they are gone FOREVER.
On January 16, 2013, the Middletown Library Board of Trustees voted to close the three branch libraries at Bayshore, Lincroft, and Navesink due to an increase in expenses and a decrease in funding. The closures will take place on March 1, 2013, unless a strategy to save the branches is developed by the community. In an effort to obtain data about the value of the branches within the community each serves, a group of library supporters have developed the following survey. Please complete the survey for each and all family members for the branch that you utilize. The committee will compile the data and develop a proposal to present to the Library Board of Trustees.
If you have any inquiries or would like to help support our efforts, send an email to us at:
Thank You!
Michael Winchell (Navesink), Melanie Elmiger (Lincroft), and Bernadette Massey (Bayshore)
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world." - Margaret Mead
Publius
1:10 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
What is the financial justification to keep these libraries open? Sure, it would be nice to do so, but is it necessary? Really? The services will still be provided at the main branch (just a little farther to go). Let's support our town showing some fiscal responsiblity - something the current administration in Washington, D.C. refuses to do. Or are you suggesting Middletown just raise taxes . . . . ?
Pilgrim
3:09 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
If you want to support fiscal responsiblity in Middletown then you need to vote Scharfenberger and Senttembrio out of office in November. Over the last three years,the Republican Party running municipal governemnt has taken over $1,000,000 dollars from the Middletown Sewerage Authority, plus over $1,000,000 from public library funds to help balance the township budget. A finance committee would be a big step towards the fiscal responsibility you call for. By-the-way what does Washington D.C. have to do with the fiscal mismanagement in Middletown, unless the connection here is the phrase "fiscal mismanagement"?
Belford Bob
8:09 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
Sounds to me like Pilgrim has lost a few elections recently to Fiore and company. How many times have you lost now there Pilgrim???
bd
3:23 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
Bob, hold on while i take a shoe off---i ran out of fingers...............
Belford Bob
1:38 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
Right on. Where is the branch in Belford? Where is the branch in Leonardo? Where is the branch in Oak Hill? How about in Chapel Hill? We should not have to pay higher taxes and sacrifice the good of the main branch for these branches. I commend the town leaders for putting an end to money we just dont have.
Pilgrim
3:21 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
For years the Republican Township Committee has been spending money the Township doesn't have. The issue isn't about more branches within the Township it is about maintaining the branches that already exist. And the larger issue is about municipal mismanagement and the need to take money from other sources to cover-up this fiscal mismanagement. The good of the main branch was sacrificed when Fiore appointed Senttembrino to the Library Board and then followed that appointment with others that he, Fiore and crew, could manipulate so that there would be no resistence when it came time to leech money from the library budget to cover shortfalls in municipal revenue.
Paul
8:20 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013
ok pilgrim, we get it, you don't like Republicans. So, can we take anything you say about the library seriously? I bet that if the Republicans supported keeping the branches open, you'd be screaming how the branches should be closed because they are a waste of money. How about this. You put as much effort in stopping Obama from destroying my country and my kids future as you do trying to keep three library branches open that hardly anyone uses.
Joe D
2:10 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
How the heck can a biased survey like this help?!? What a load of garbage. Some of these questions arent even intellectually honest. I thought you guys were trying to come up with solutions, not play politics. Most of these questions read like prep for a witch hunt! Why don't you do something productive instead of wasting our time and attempting to waste our tax dollars with this nonsense?
LGA
2:41 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
If you want to keep these outdated library branches then you should have to pay a use fee or membership fee. I'd rather have cops then outdated libraries. The Middletown swim club couldn't survive with a membership fee, i doubt the libraries could either. Sell the buildings and use the money to improve the main branch.
Pilgrim
3:24 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
The buildings are not going to be sold. Although, the Bayshore building will be the future home of the Recreation Department and other municipal services presently being housed at Croydon Hall.
johnny appleseed
3:55 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
These libraries are invaluable to the citizens, both young and old who use them. The main branch will be swamped with the overflow from the smaller branches. Why can't we reduce the senseless overtime of police, who at road sites sit in their cars, or are on cellphones and not directing traffic. What are the actually doing? And also the township road crews who gather our brush and leaves, while 1 or 2 do the actual job and the rest stand watching them. I am sure there are areas of waste that need looking into. Keep the libraries going.
Hunter H. Helmsley
4:02 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
I can answer your question in one word. UNIONS.
LGA
5:15 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
But how many really use them? If you want to use them then pay for them yourselves. Just like you pay to use recreation, little league or the YMCA.
Joe
4:05 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
Give me a break with this nonsense already. What do these three libraries account for, 10% or so of the total library usage combined? You wouldn't even notice the increase at the main branch. This silly survey is just another desperate attempt by the Middletown Democrats to create an issue for themselves. And Pilgrim, I checked and the Middletown budget and financial operations are in way better shape, and actually way lower than any town run by your beloved Democrats. If it were up to the Democrats, the unions would be running kids lemonade stands. That's where the problem lies - with the unions, which happened to worm a contract that gave 6% raises to library workers. Don't back down library board - close the three branches, they are a waste of money. Or better yet, let the Democrats take some of that union money and keep the libraries open on their nickel.
bd
4:15 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
Those that want to keep these useless entities should pay the ENTIRE cost of them. You can have exclusive membership provided you foot the bill-----it's called personal responsibility----something that cause Dims to break out in hives.....................
Pilgrim
5:28 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
For which year(s) did you check the budget and financial operations: before or after the Township Committee NEEDED to take $350,000 three years in a row from the Sewerage Authority; before or after the Township Committee NEEDED to take over $1,000,000 from the Library budget; before or after the Township NEEDS to contribute $200,000 a year in operating expenses to run heat and air conditioning at the same time to keep the floors from warping at the Arts Center?
Your attempted comparison with how other towns operate has nothing to do with how Middletown operates. Trying to blame this on the unions is just plain stupid -- it sounds like Scharfenberger a few years ago when he tried to use the teachers union as a smoke screen for his financial mismanagement and inability to provide the leadership required to run a town the size of Middletown. The problem lies with the fiscal mismanagement provided by the all Republican Middletown Township Committee. Maybe a campaign should be started to close the Arts Center that sucks taxpayer dollars out of the budget year after year? I wonder if the $280,000 that the Township plans to get from the private school that will be installed in the Recreation building at Croydon Hall will be used to cover operating expenses for the Arts Center building?
Gary Junstrom
6:27 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
It sounds like pilgrim is one of the handful of people who actually use the seldom used branches. As bd said, if it means that much to you, dig deep and pay for it yourself. Or maybe the library board can find a similar organization to the one that took over the swim club. That was a brilliant move on the part of the town council. I've been a member for years and I can't wait until they are done with all of the improvements. If the interest is there, someone will come up with the money for the library.. If not, then I will continue to do what most of the town has been doing, use the main branch.
Pilgrim
3:30 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
I do pay for all aspects of the public library system with my property taxes. The organization that took over the Swim Club was found by the Swim Club, not the Township Committee -- so no "brilliant move on the part of the town council" (committee). By-the-way, there is no committment for the INDEPENDENT non-profit organization that now has the deed to the former Swim Club to provide what used to be Swim Club activities/membership in the future.
Gary Junstrom
4:39 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
Hate to break it to you, but I sat in on those meetings and some of the swift ideas the Swim Club members came up with to solve the financial shortfall of the club were to hold a bake sale and make people wear wrist bands. The town contacted us and informed us of the pending deal with the Ice World people. You don't do your democrat party any favors by posting things that are so blatantly false.
Publius
6:37 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
The key question is: Does keeping these branches open make fiscal sense given the current economy? There are a lot of "wants" and blame this group or that party, which makes for fun reading, but like every family, the government needs to start cutting back. Really, are these branches necessary?
Pilgrim
3:15 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
The municipal government, including its boards and authorities and extensions, does need to control spending. Unfortunately, the Township Committee's approach is to take money from other non-traditional sources to cover-up years (decades) of financial mismanagement. While the primary issue is closing library branches, what is being ignored is what has put the Library Board in the situation of having to make the decision to close branches, which will happen. The Township Committee has been financially irresponsible for years and from year-to-year has found ways to hide its mismanagement. When the economy went south it became much harder to hide this mismanagement. When the Christie administration instituted a 2% tax levy cap it became even more difficult for the Township Committee to raise revenue and stay within this cap and to keep its financial mismanagement cloaked. This led to taking money from the Township Sewerage Authority, which was easy because the Committee controlled the Authority with patronage appointments. When the taking of dollars from the Authority wasn't enough, Fiore, Mayor at the time, appointed Senttembrino the the Public Library Board to spearhead the effort to go after funds that the library held in surplus for planned future use. When the Township Committee had difficulty doing this they passed an ordinance and packed the Library Board with members that would do as told by the Committee. The branches will be closed -- all of them.
Paul
7:21 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
Joe D hit the nail on the head. That survey is a joke. It should be on the democrat party website, since that's all this really is, a lame attempt at trying to get a political advantage.
I guess when you run candidates who get arrested for crack or propose teaching the gay agenda to middletown school kids, this is all you got left.
bd
10:22 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013
FYI---these "progressive" patches are extensions of the dim website----look at their "authors"---greenies, ms lbgtvlmnop and lead commentator pogrom is a many time electoral loser---they compete as to who can yell fire the loudest........
RIFFAXE
1:20 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
I don't see a need for local libraries anymore, so that is a great place to cut the budget. Between the libraries on all of our University Campus', State and county run institutions the need for local libraries are not needed. Besides we have to face the fact that technology has caught up with many past traditions and institutions so i is time to start maximizing the new way of doing things.
Pilgrim
3:22 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
RIFFAXE, do you see a need for a Cultural Arts Center; do you see the need for public schools? Do you think students can use technology so they all can be schooled from home? Do you think all sports and after school activities should go to an on-line environment?
bd
4:01 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
(shorter version of pogroms response) SQUIRREL
Gary Junstrom
4:44 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
Riffaxe you are right. Don't waste your time on a poster who is just here as a political operative. Any person really interested in the issue cannot defend keeping open libraries that hardly anyone uses especially at a time when libraries are fast being rendered obsolete by technology. You make many good points, school libraries and the internet give users so many other options.
LGA
7:29 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
Aren't there libraries in each school? Aren't so many school libraries and 4 town libraries a little redundant?
Jesse
6:31 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
School libraries? What about those of us adults who no longer go to school? We can't use those libraries. The internet? I read books on my iPad and the library's selections are totally lacking. I HAVE to go to the brick and mortar library to gets the books I want to read. I can't believe the amount of people saying that technology has made our libraries obsolete. That's ridiculous! Every time I drive by the library its parking lot is full. Every time I go it's so packed I have to park in the back. It'll be a shame if we lose the branches but for heaven's sake, anyone saying we no longer need a library at all is dead wrong. Open your eyes and look: the place is crowded every time I go. Now the Cultural Arts Center is a different story - what a waste of taxpayer's money. They should close it down immediately.
P.S. All the partisan politics on these local message boards is tiresome. Blah blah blah. Get over yourselves. How about staying on point and not dragging your hatred for the other party into every single news story to hit the web.
Gary Junstrom
6:52 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
i get it Jesse, you want the town to pour money into libraries that no one uses because you want it, but you want to close the arts center that tens of thousands of people use because YOU don't want it. How selfish. I have two children, one in middle school and elementary school. They spend a ton of time at the arts center in a wide range of activities. I pay more in fees for these programs in a week than people pay at the library in a lifetime. The programs are great and they are always packed. The library has a budget of over $4 million an outrageous sum to pay for union librarians. Not every kid is into sports - why don't you complain about all of the fields the town has? I think the fields are important, but so are other areas of activity. Plus, it is a great selling point for the town. My sister-in-law is in real estate and always talks up the arts center to prospetive buyers.
Jesse
7:33 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
No Gary, I don't want the town to pour money into the library because I want it - me, single solitary me, a lone figure among all the thousands of citizens of Middletown Township - me, the only person who uses the library. Yeah, right. No, I want the town to pour money into the libraries because I believe my tax dollars should go to essential services, like garbage pickup, snow and leaf removal, police, fire and first aid services, schools and yes, a free public library system for Township citizens. A Cultural Art Center? Not so much. I'm glad your kids enjoy their time at the CA Center and you're right, you do pay a lot in fees for the programs there. A lot of parents can't afford to pay those fees, so why should their taxes be spent on keeping the place open? The Arts Center is not an essential, it's an extravagance. Maybe it should be sold to a private company, like the Swim Club. Or maybe the programs at the Arts Center should be rolled into the library system - perhaps they could be held at the supposedly underused branches. And why don't I complain about all the fields the town has? I already have - in other message boards.
Gary Junstrom
8:18 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
I get it, libraries are essential because you use it, but the arts center and athletic fields are not because you don't. How selfish of you. And btw, the library is not closing, just the branches that very few people use.
Jesse
10:31 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013
I know the main branch is not closing. I'm not an idiot, only selfish, according to you. My original post addressed the fact that people - like you - who think technology has rendered libraries obsolete are dead wrong. They are thriving, and very much essential in a community like Middletown. In any community, actually. Ask any town planner: Library? Essential. Overpriced money pit of an Arts Center? Eehhhh, maybe if there's some money left over after paying for the essential services. Selfish? I think YOU'RE selfish for expecting Middletown taxpayers to lay out extra money to keep that money-eater open just because YOU use it.
Patrick JAmes
12:55 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013
If you want to save money Like the Township board says they want too, How come the TOMSA board does not have to pay for health benefits. How many were just placed back on the board for a second 5 year term. How many thousand of dollars is that costing the taxpayers. Residents of Middletown, Now is the time to fight back.
Joe
9:47 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013
FYI Patrick, TOMSA has nothing to do with the town's budget. And last I looked, our sewer fees are the lowest in the state and lowest by a mile so whatever they are doing, I hope they keep doing it. What's more, much of their revenue is generated from surrounding towns. Always funny to see democrats go down this road. Here's this year' democrat slogan, "if something works well for the taxpayers, we promise to end it."
bd
10:05 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013
FLAG ON THE PLAY-----Joe, everyone knows it Unsportsmanlike Conduct to introduce facts into an argument with a dim-----how are they ever going to win if you use the standard of truth..............................
Patrick JAmes
11:55 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013
The Township took money from TOMSA. They could of taken more if they didn't have to pay for the free health care benefits that they get for doing a part time job. 20 hours a month gets you thousand of dollars in free health care. BTW, not a dem. I am a taxpayer. Do you think they deserve free Health Care.
Pilgrim
3:35 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013
TOMSA has everything to do with the Township budget: the Sewerage Authority fees come from Middletown taxpayers, the same people that support the budget with property taxes -- all part of the cost of running the Township. And, over the last three years TOMSA fees, over $1,000,000, have been transfered to the Township Committee to plug holes in the budget. The Township Committee's financial mismangement of our property taxeswas is so extensive that the money from TOMSA wasn't enough. So, they Committee went after the Public Library surplus, which has placed the library in the dire financial situation it is in today.
The TOMSA board is appointed by the Township Committee that keeps reappointing board members that are eligible for healthcare and pensions -- Tom Stokes, who lives in Florida six months a year, is entitled to healthcare and a pension. The same is true for former mayors Pat Parkinson and Joan Smith. Doing away with the Sewerage Authority doesn't do away with the sewerage operation, nor the revenue received from fees. Making it part of the Public Works department would eliminate the costs associated with the Sewerage Authority board. By-the-way,our fees are low because the population that uses the sewerage operation is large; the numbers would be even lower if the gross fee dollars were not paying for unnecessaary Authority healthcare and pensions. The local Republican pledge: "taxpayer dollars for Party patronage, we promise never to end it".
Joe
10:15 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013
Right bd. Look at it as an intervention. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Just trying to educate the poor waifs before it's too late.
bd
10:38 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013
LOL--and humor too---careful their little heads don't explode............
Patrick JAmes
11:53 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013
Pilgrim
Good job on the research. Way to look out for the taxpayers of Middletown. Joe. Try to get to one on the library's before they close them down and do a little research. Pilgrim ever think about running for office..