Man Charged with Attempted Murder in Bed Bath & Beyond Stabbing (UPDATE)

Jessica January 22, 2013 at 04:27 pm

I'm still not seeing how affordable housing has anything to do with this. Sure SOME people may have rental assistance but the property itself is not subsidized housing.. It's not state or federal funded. It is PRIVATELY owned in which the state of New Jersey holds the mortgage for the property. Before you go and say all people that come from low income housing are scum and come from scum or that anyone should be thanking anyone for subsidizing their housing please educate yourself on what you're talking about and don't pass judgement of everyone when you dont even know what you're talking about. It's obvious that this kid had something wrong with him. I don't believe it had anything to do with race. It was a very random act of violence that no person should have to witness or fall victim to. We are all faced with the same reality that this is what the world is coming to; random acts of violence, people stabbing innocent people, shooting up a school and killing innocent children and school faculty, and shooting up movie theaters full of innocent people just trying to see a movie. Still wanna tell me this had to do with the fact that this kid lived in affordable housing.. Please, get a reality check. Crime happens EVERYWHERE, and criminals come in all different types black, white, rich, poor it doesn't matter. That's reality

NJarhead January 22, 2013 at 04:54 pm

Jessica, are you denying that, as a matter of fact, increased lower income (affordable) housing directly correlates to an increase in crime, statistically? Because there is no shortage of reading (credible) sources on the web.

Mary Jones January 22, 2013 at 05:34 pm

wow really - whre does it say this guy livedin low income housing and WHERE do u expect the parents of children with disabilities TO LIVE IN NJ - or you just wanna do a HITLER on them all?

Kathy Giaquinto January 22, 2013 at 06:13 pm

Agree 100%. If this world wan not so messed up others in BB&B would have beat this miscreant to death while it took 20 minutes for police and rescue to arrive.

Kathy Giaquinto January 22, 2013 at 06:24 pm

Mary - you are a genuis - that is the best idea I heard all day. They should at least be in prison where they belong but I dont want to pay the taxes so I prefer your idea.

Jennifer January 22, 2013 at 08:50 pm

Affordable housing, low income housing, rent subsidized housing etc. = lower rents. Yes it is a fact that there is more crime in lower income or poorer neighborhoods. Watch the news, read a paper, google it. Google the crime rate in Asbury Park and google the crime rate in Colts Neck or Spring Lake. Google a low income neighborhood in Harlem and google the upper east side. Noone is being racist, these are the facts. And yes crime does happen everywhere, but the crime rate is much higher in the lower income area.

california January 22, 2013 at 10:32 pm

Thank you Jennifer, finally someone else who can read without being biased. If only the other literate people could understand facts and use their common sense then perhaps this sort of crap wouldnt go on like it continues to do.

stacie bohr January 23, 2013 at 07:21 am

Biased? Calling bad changes by having your "colors" changed in your town is not biased? People that don't agree with your position don't disagree with your statistics necessarily. What I, at least, am saying is that is bigotry and this was not a race/socio-economic crime. It was a crime committed by a mentally ill person. It does NOT matter what color he is, what town he lives in. He is insane...plain and simple. You are the one who is fixated on his color and "low income" and, what I gather is, should he have been white in lived in a nicer neighborhood...this wouldn't have happened? WRONG!

Jennifer January 23, 2013 at 01:22 pm

@Stacie Bohr - You're off base, I was simply stating that there is MORE crime in lower income neighborhoods plain and simple. The suspect could be white, black, yellow, brown and be wealthy, middle income or poor. He may educated or not. We realize that. He is psychologically impaired and should be confined for the remainder of his life. Rather than be judgmental read the comments prior to posting.

marylou January 23, 2013 at 02:05 pm

As far as I'm concerned,you can all go back to where you came from.I'm a local,born in Riverview,lived in a working class section of Middletown all of my life,over 50 yrs. My parents were also locals. We had rich people,poor people and every type in the middle.We had black people and white people.What we never had,beford people started moving here from the north was the amount of violent crime we have now.So,stop blaming it on low income people and black people.It's the Bennys,who want to move their NYC and northern NJ lifestyle down here.

marylou January 23, 2013 at 02:08 pm

continued.
If so of you,with you noses stuck high in the air and your superior attitudes,ever came to the area I live,you'd probably run for your lives,because of the modest homes,which translate,in your language,to high crime.You;d be wrong,but that'a OK.I don't want you here.

NJarhead January 23, 2013 at 03:17 pm

Marylou, I was born and raised here as well. As were my parents, my grand-parents, my great-grandparents all the way back to the Revolution (where the trail stops). I don't always see a difference in low income and Benny. If anything, I'd say it's both. I'm not saying black or white and I'm not saying just the poor either. But, the facts are where the income is low, the crime is generally high. Some of the Benny's had low income where they came from.

jerseyswamps January 23, 2013 at 03:57 pm

Interesting, some of you regular posters are life long Middletown folks. So am I. Born at Riverview and raised in Middletown since 1949. I seem to remember some very high profile crimes here in Middletown when I was younger. Murder by a doctor from Oak Hill section? Etc. We just have more people. So more crime. Most of the bayshore was always there. A lot fewer farms and more homes inland. More reporting and instant reporting, too. Like Patch and APP online.

marylou January 23, 2013 at 05:44 pm

jerseyswamps,Oak Hill does not have low income housing.You sort of proved my point.Crime happens everywhere.Mental illness is not limited to people who live in low inclome housing,or to black people.I live in a part of Middletown Twp.on the bayshore,in a modest home.It may be considered by some to be "low income housing.It's paid for,no more mortgage.It better than having a Mc Mansion and a huge mortgage payment,and not being able to afford anythng but hot dogs for dinner.

marylou January 23, 2013 at 05:47 pm

And I wonder why something nansy hasn't been said about where this young woman lives,Keansburg.Why no comments about the riff-raff from Keansburg coming into their much-more-affluent-and-therefore-better town to shop?

Mike January 23, 2013 at 07:16 pm

Ok marylou...he's riff-raff. Feel better now?

Jennifer January 23, 2013 at 07:24 pm

Let's all agree to disagree. This isn't going anywhere. The only important factor right now is that the victim physically recovers and is mentally able to cope with this tragedy. It is a terrible act of violence that noone should be subject to in a poor, middle income or wealthy neighborhood by an individual of any color, race, religion or socio economic background.

marylou January 23, 2013 at 08:18 pm

Mike,that;s what everyone has said,and they blame it on his race and the fact that he lives in low income housing.While I don't agree on stimatizing people for their race,their income,or where they live,why not call the poor,injured woman the same?She lives in a low-income town.

marylou January 23, 2013 at 08:21 pm

Agreed.The incident was caused by mental illness,period.And the funny thing is that one of the people who is blasting low income housing lives in the Bayshore area,as I do,and feels it necessary to take a superior attitude.

Howard Johnson January 24, 2013 at 10:53 am

@middletowngirl
I've followed this thread from the start and you're spot on middletowngirl. Don't let the "pc" crowd deter you. Marylou is a perfect example of what you've been saying. She has no defense so she tries strawman arguments because she in fact is an example of one who the rest has to subsidize. I also love those defenders of low income housing. It's always all good with them UNTIL some low income person moves next door to THEM.

marylou January 24, 2013 at 03:24 pm

Howard,you seem to think that because I live in a modest home the I'm being susidized.I'll have you know that I've lived in the same house for over 30 yrs.and it belongs to me and my husband,no bank or mortgage company involved.From what Middletowngirl has posted on this story and others,I gather that she lives in a less than affluent section of the township,and needs to feel superior to others who live in low income housing.I am not defending what is designated as "low income" housing.What I am dfending is low income people,1 of which I am not,but I know many.None of them are criminals.They work and live within their means.There have always been low income people in Middletown,long before "low income housing."I have no idea how much money my neighbors earn,nor do they know how much we earn.It's noe of anyone's business.
Now,please expalin how you are "subsidizing"me.This,I've got to hear!

Nikki January 24, 2013 at 04:04 pm

Everyone here is a bunch of idiots blaming low income housing, NY Benneys.. really my goodness, how completely stupid.. its called DRUGS!!!!!!!!!!!! Drugs make people do these sick things.. Drugs messes with your brain.. That is the problem.. no low income, not race etc.. DRUGS make you think things are real.. mental illness.. and the problem is NJ (NOT BENNEYS YOU IDIOT) after lighting cats on fire dont you think that he deserves a mental health check.. dont u think this sick person needed to be evaluated.. NOPE - LET GO AND PUT BACK IN THE STREETS.. WTG NJ!!

emiliac January 24, 2013 at 04:23 pm

My earlier comment was rejected: Please consider, look at this critically and then comment. This past weekend a youngster from a good family perpetrated this terrible act: MURDERED 5 Family members.
But, family members say, Nehemiah Griego is no monster. They can't fathom what could have gone so terribly wrong. "Whether it was a mental breakdown or some deeper undiagnosed psychological issue, we can't be sure yet," his uncle, former New Mexico state Sen. Eric Griego, said. Tyrik Haynes desires the same consideration. Had he been admitted for Psych Evaluation after burning the cat this crime might not have occurred. Mental Illness affects all economic & ethnic groups.

Jennifer January 24, 2013 at 05:27 pm

Tyrik Haynes does not deserve anything but to go to prison for the remainder of his life. He knows right from wrong. He deserves NO consideration for what he put this woman, baby, husband and family through and what they will continue to battle for the remainder of their lives. If he did not he would have went on his merry way and lingered in the store rather than going straight home and hiding. This happened a little past 4p last Thursday and the police were at BB&B within minutes and at his home across the street. He was taken out of his home and placed in the back of the police car within 15 min of the stabbing.

Jessica January 24, 2013 at 05:40 pm

Considering my associates degree in criminal justice, I'm very well aware of the statistics regarding crime rates in low income areas. Trust me I am, and I'm not defending the kid that did this. I'm just looking for some kind of evidence proving that this specific crime had anything to do with affordable housing, besides the fact that this kid lives in what you people with your noses held up high call "low income housing."

Publius January 24, 2013 at 05:51 pm

Drugs? Mental illness? Parental nurture? Environment? Society? Are we jumping to excuses already? Let's consider accountability. He did it and should be [pick your description: punished or rehabilitated, or society should be able to pursue some retribution and/or deterrent]. There is evil in this world and ignoring or denying it won't make it go away. Instead of focusing on banning implements, how about promoting morals, ethics, civic responsibility - issues we've stripped from our schools because of some misguided attempt to appease a very small, but very vocal, minority and apply a twisted reading of our founding documents and the Constitution.

albert j rieder January 29, 2013 at 02:50 am

was that a fully automatic knife? it went "off" more than 10 times. A ban on any knife capable of being used to stab someone 10 or more times. AN Assault knife!, was it scary looking? did it have any military characteristics?

KB January 29, 2013 at 07:40 am

High school drop out, single parent in the home. Mom pretty sure noticed something was wrong with her demon posses son at an early age. And ignored all the teacher parent conference meetings. And was also one mimicking not my son, not my baby. Me personally don't give him any medicine for crazy people, let him get the crap beat out of him. For the parent you should have got help long time ago. My son stole at a very young age. 14 I took him to jail, punished him big time and the fact I was a single parent. I got him a mentor he's 22 and doing just fine now working and thank me for what I did. To this animal parent (s) show the mutt tough love ignore Phone calls , avoid going too see him.

Reds January 30, 2013 at 01:20 pm

There are a lot of comments about low income housing on this forum, so I would like to give my 2 cent opinion. In my town we have insane taxes and a section of low income housing. A majority of this housing gets handed down to family members that do not need it. So if a single household with children get it (and obviously need it), years later when the housing is no longer needed, they hold on to it and pass it on to their kids that own fancy cars, sell drugs or rent it out for profit to illegals etc.... We have a whole section of drug addicts and prostitutes that live in them now, amongst all the hard working families with children that NEED low income housing. This type of housing needs to be seen as temporary and watched and checked on. It's amazing how hard working and TAX paying citizens are more monitored than the people that mooch off the system and abuse it. All you liberals are a joke, this nation is a mess. We have people that aspire to nothing and just have kids to collect welfare and create generations of low life's.

Jennifer January 30, 2013 at 02:06 pm

Reds, I agree with you. There are many available jobs but the people on welfare and collecting unemployment DON'T want to work. They actually get more handed to them that way. They will get reduced housing, food stamps and utility assistance. WHY WORK - they say. The difference here is middle income and high income people have to work to support their lifestyle. They do not qualify for assistance. Low income or no income that live in reduced housing, collecting welfare, food stamps etc. do not work. That is how they can collect from the state. For all the liberals out there that are definitely going to disagree. These are facts not opinions. Open up the paper, go on employment websites. There are jobs and all sorts of jobs. Please note that I am NOT saying that all people in reduced housing do not work. But the ones that are collecting and receiving assistance do not. That is the only way they are eligible. So before you retaliate and post, check your facts. I have already. PS - reduced housing - rentals, also do not pay taxes to their town. Owners of homes do pay taxes to their town.